puddle stomper: INTERNETcan you accept tina fey and amy poehler made a stupid comment...
INTERNET
can you accept tina fey and amy poehler made a stupid comment that was actually really derogatory / but they have apologized / they are not bad people or anti women
can you accept that taylor may have overreacted but that girl gets slut shamed like none fucking other and whether she fucks 2 or 200 people/ she is not a bad person or anti women
NOBODY IS A PERFECT ANGEL HERE and women v. women bashing is INTERNALIZED MISOGYNY the patriarchy wins when we do shit like this
i usually dgaf about celebrity shit but this is actually important
STOP.
genuinely fascinated that a joke which ended with, to paraphrase, “she just needs some me time” from Tina and, “ehhh she should just go for it” from Amy has suddenly become “really derogatory” or equated with slut-shaming or touted as “internalized misogyny”
contextually it wasn’t even about her dating history, it was simply a riff on the maternally protective jokes they’d made all night e.g the one about getting Lena Dunham through middle school. it was “stay away from Michael J. Fox’s son and take some time for yourself and to be a woman on your own terms rather than trying to be something to/for some guy”, not “stay away from Michael J. Fox’s son because you’re a big slut and everyone hates you”
in the same way TSwift’s quote is in a lot of ways being taken out of context, so too is the “offending” but inoffensive joke
the internet sometimes
A message from Louis CK about Tig’s new album.
Greetings to the people and parts of people that are reading this. Hi. This is Louis. I’m a comedian and you bought a thing from me. Well, I’m writing to tell You that there is a new thing you can buy on my website louisck.com. It’s an audio standup set by not me but another comedian named Tig Notaro. Why am I selling someone else’s comedy on my website?
Well, Tig is a friend of mine and she is very funny. I love her voice on stage. One night I was performing at a club in LA called Largo. Tig was there. She was about to go on stage. I hadn’t seen Tig in about a year and I said how are you? She replied “well I found out today that I have cancer in both breasts and that it has likely spread to my lymph nodes. My doctor says it looks real bad. “. She wasn’t kidding. I said “uh. Jesus. Tig. Well. Do you… Have your family… Helping?”. She said “well my mom was with me but a few weeks ago she fell down, hit her head and she died”. She still wasn’t kidding.
Now, I’m pretty stupid to begin with, and I sure didn’t know what to say now. I opened my mouth and this came out. “jeez, Tig. I. Really value you. Highly.”. She said “I value you highly too, Louie.”. Then she held up a wad of note-paper in her hand and said “I’m gonna talk about all of it on stage now. It’s probably going to be a mess”. I said “wow”. And with that, she went on stage.
I stood in the wings behind a leg of curtain, about 8 feet from her, and watched her tell a stunned audience “hi. I have cancer. Just found out today. I’m going to die soon”. What followed was one of the greatest standup performances I ever saw. I can’t really describe it but I was crying and laughing and listening like never in my life. Here was this small woman standing alone against death and simply reporting where her mind had been and what had happened and employing her gorgeously acute standup voice to her own death.
The show was an amazing example of what comedy can be. A way to visit your worst fears and laugh at them. Tig took us to a scary place and made us laugh there. Not by distracting us from the terror but by looking right at it and just turning to us and saying “wow. Right?”. She proved that everything is funny. And has to be. And she could only do this by giving us her own death as an example. So generous.
After her set, I asked Mark Flanagan, the owner of Largo (great club, by the way) if he recorded the set. Largo is set up for excellent recordings. He said that he did.
A few days later, I wrote Tig and asked her if I could release this set on my site. I wanted people to hear what I saw. What we all saw that night. She agreed. The show is on sale for the same 5 dollars I charge for my stuff. I’m only keeping 1. She gets the other 4. Tig has decided to give some of that to cancer research.
Tig, by the way, has since undergone a double mastectomy. She is doing well. Her doctors say her chances of survival are excellent. So she went there and came back. Her report from the frontlines of life and death are here for you to… Enjoy.
Please go to my site louisck.com and buy her show. You can buy it here.
“Tragedy + time = comedy. But I don’t have the benefit of time. So I’m just going to tell you the tragedy and know that everything is going to be okay.”
So began Tig Notaro’s set last night at her show “Tig and friends” at the Largo.
Actually, that wasn’t the beginning of her set. It began when Ed Helms welcomed her to the stage and she crossed over, took the microphone, and said “Thank you, thank you, I have cancer, thank you, I have cancer, really, thank you.”
Applause gave way to reticent laughter as she explained how she had planned a set about bees flying alongside her car on the 405, but that she couldn’t possibly do her “silly jokes” when all this was going on. And that’s when she told us that 3 days ago, she was diagnosed with breast cancer, in both breasts.
But she didn’t just have cancer. She went on to explain that in some manic twist of fate, while her career is at an all-time high — she is moving to New York to work on Amy Schumer’s new television show, she was on This American Life — concurrently, all these terrible circumstances have befallen her over the past 3 months: pneumonia made way for a debilitating bacterial infection in her digestive tract for which she was hospitalized and lost 30 pounds off of her already small frame, days after being released from the hospital, her young mother died suddenly and tragically (fell, hit her head, died), then she and her partner broke up, and then, now, cancer. In both breasts. (“You have a lump.” “No, doctor, that’s my breast.” — one of her most renowned bits is about someone remarking upon her small breasts)
For the first half of her set, even though she was telling the story in perfect grace and humor, I couldn’t laugh. For the second half, for the first time in my life, as far as I can recall, I genuinely laughed and cried at the exact same time, bewildered at the tragedy and the remarkably calm, clever prism through which she assessed her terrible set of circumstances.
While telling us anecdotes from these personal tragedies, all along the way, she assured the audience “it’s okay, I’m going to be okay.” At one part, when she reached a dark place wherein most of the audience could not find the will to laugh, she said “maybe I’ll just go back to telling jokes about bees. Should I do that?” there were several “NOs” and one insistent loud male voice who cried out
“NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT. THIS IS FUCKING INCREDIBLE.”
She looked genuinely taken aback, and relieved. She’d managed to make the tragic not only palatable but overwhelmingly engaging. She’d done it.
Tig’s been one of my favorite comedians for a couple of years now. I told her how much I loved her work after a set at UCB one night, and she received my words so kindly that she came towards me and gave me a hug. I’ve gone downtown to bars by myself and sat for hours alone, just waiting to see her headlining set.
At the end of her routine last night, everyone in the audience gave her a standing ovation, for me her wowed, grateful, happy face blurry with my own salty eyes. She’d released her horrific story into the hearts of her fans. I’m sure we all felt like I did; we were made witness to a truly historical moment in comedy, by one of the industry of comedy’s absolute greatest.
Bill Burr followed her set, inexplicably able to make the whole audience uproarious with laughter by the end. Bill Burr then brought on Louis C.K., the surprise guest of the night, which was a shock - it was my first time ever seeing him live - but it was very difficult to give him my enrapt attention after Tig’s on-stage confessions.
My head is still swimming around what happened last night. We all saw the ultimate embodiment of what comedy is supposed to do: deeply personal tragedies somehow transformed, with the enormous, necessary power of an open-hearted audience, into brilliantly-written truths that we’ll all take home with us and keep with us as long as we’ll have a sound-enough mind to remember that show. If schadenfreude is pleasure derived from the misfortune of others, we all shuffled into another corner last night, schadenfreude’s cousin; we’re not laughing at you, we’re crying with you but trying very hard to accept this avalanche of misfortune through the more edible prism of humor.
I’m so grateful I could bear witness to what happened last night, and more than that I’m grateful to comedy and to Tig Notaro for being not only courageous enough and not only spirited enough but for being so endlessly, achingly HONEST with all of us, the stunned, mouth-breathing strangers in the dark.
—Kira Hesser
one of my favourite comedians :( get well soon, Tig!
watch her legendary “No moleste!” bit here
RE: Adam Carolla
There’s obviously not much left to be said about this, but the point I would try to make is this: consider the number of successful, hilarious women in comedy versus the number who are trying to get into comedy. Then consider the number of successful, hilarious men versus the number of unfunny men either in or trying to get into comedy. You’ll find that women probably have a much, MUCH higher strike rate. And not only that, but women almost never stoop to the crass, offensive bullshit - and often misogyny - that you get from fledgling male comedians.
ASK AMY POEHLER!
Next week, on Friday June 15, noted comedian, actress, writer, and Dakota Fanning impersonator Amy Poehler will be speaking at New York’s 92nd Street Y in conversation with Indiewire’s Caryn James. Got a burning question you’ve always longed to ask Amy? Just put your question in our ask box! We’ll compile the best Amy Poehler interrogations from the Tumblr audience, and she’ll be asked those questions onstage and on video. Then we’ll post her answers in animated form for your viewing pleasure. If you want to attend the event in the flesh, get your tickets now. As an added bonus, one lucky and eligible question-asker will get two free tickets to the event. Ask away!
Amy Poehler, you are my favourite human being in the whole wide world. I want us to be best friends and eat pizza. Since I have to ask a question and not just spend all my time telling you how great you are, my question is this: if you were just starting out in comedy this year, how would you approach it, given that there’s now not only stand-up and improv schools but Tworter and Tumbies and all of these things? With lots of ways to explore your comedic potential, would you walk the same or a similar path? ily call me
Dear Daenerys
Dear Daenerys,
I recently walked in on my boyfriend of three years naked with another woman. I was hurt, of course, but deep down I still love him, and I know that he still loves me. He swears it was a mistake and that it won’t happen again. Should I trust him?
Sincerely,
Feeling Betrayed
Dear Feeling Betrayed,
WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS?
Daenerys xo
Dear Daenerys,
My wife and I have been married for a year now. We’re both 24, just starting our careers, and not really in the financial position - but she wants to go off birth control and try and have a baby. I’ve tried to reason with her that it’s not the right thing to do at this moment in time, but she won’t listen. What should I do?
Sincerely,
Not Ready
Dear Not Ready,
Well for a start, you have no obligation to have sex with her at all. If she chooses to go off birth control, that’s a choice you have to respect. She may, for all you know, also have legitimate health reasons for doing so. Sit down with her and have a civilised discussion about it. When the Khal wanted to impregnate me, he basically just stuck it in me without asking. Eventually I was fine with it until I sacrificed the life of my unborn for his temporary half-life in a witch’s horrid ritual, but she may wish to have the courtesy of a choice in the matter. It’s all about communication in these matters. Speaking of which, WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS?
Dear Daenerys,
WHERE ARE YOUR DRAGONS?
Sincerely,
Daeblairis Terpblavian
Dear Daeblairis Terpblavian,
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Sincerely,
Daenerys
Dear Daenerys
Dear Daenerys,
I recently walked in on my boyfriend of three years naked with another woman. I was hurt, of course, but deep down I still love him, and I know that he still loves me. He swears it was a mistake and that it won’t happen again. Should I trust him?
Sincerely,
Feeling Betrayed
Dear Feeling Betrayed,
WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS?
Daenerys xo
Dear Daenerys,
My wife and I have been married for a year now. We’re both 24, just starting our careers, and not really in the financial position - but she wants to go off birth control and try and have a baby. I’ve tried to reason with her that it’s not the right thing to do at this moment in time, but she won’t listen. What should I do?
Sincerely,
Not Ready
Dear Not Ready,
Well for a start, you have no obligation to have sex with her at all. If she chooses to go off birth control, that’s a choice you have to respect. She may, for all you know, also have legitimate health reasons for doing so. Sit down with her and have a civilised discussion about it. When the Khal wanted to impregnate me, he basically just stuck it in me without asking. Eventually I was fine with it until I sacrificed the life of my unborn for his temporary half-life in a witch’s horrid ritual, but she may wish to have the courtesy of a choice in the matter. It’s all about communication in these matters. Speaking of which, WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS?
Dear Daenerys,
WHERE ARE YOUR DRAGONS?
Sincerely,
Daeblairis Terpblavian
Dear Daeblairis Terpblavian,
Fantastic question. I do not know. I would like my children back. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS? I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS.
Sincerely,
Daenerys
Lady Comics: Who Needs Late Night? We’ve Got Tumblr
If you ask a female comedian how social media has impacted her professional life, she will likely respond like Elaine Carroll. “Social media has made my career,” says Carroll, the 30-year-old creator of the Very Mary Kate web series, a spoof of Mary Kate Olsen’s glam life in New York.
Remember just a few years back, when comedians (of any gender) relentlessly chased guest spots at the feet of David Letterman and Jay Leno? Getting a gig on late night was the ultimate career boost, but women comedians had to fight through the prejudices both professional (like infamously misogynist Letterman booker Eddie Brill) and cultural (let’s all try to forget that Christopher Hitchens essay).
But the level playing field of Twitter, Facebook, and Tumblr means no one gets between ambitious talent and a potentially receptive audience. All it takes is perseverance, ability, skill, and infinite patience.
“Social media has essentially become my career,” says Kate Spencer, an improv instructor and writer at VH1 who blogs on Tumblr.
Reasons Why People Should Not Be Allowed To Breed
Whether or not someone should have kids depends on whether that person:
- likes Two and a Half Men on Facebook
- has feather extensions
- thinks Keira Knightley was a better Elizabeth Bennet than Jennifer Ehle
- has NOT had a sex dream about Colin Firth as Mr Darcy
- has bad teeth
- has thin lips
- has feather extensions
- popped collar
- is a zombie
- has never seen The Lion King
- is a man who deems it his responsibility to dictate the needs of women to actual women
- didn’t getInception the first time
- thinks Pablo Honey is the best Radiohead album
- is sexually attracted to trees
- has feather extensions
- has sex with children but never calls
- can’t recite a full scene from a classic Simpsons episode off by heart
- enjoys watching golf
- enjoys watching golf and masturbating
- enjoys watching golf and masturbating to the commentators’ voices
- non-ironically uses acronyms in verbal conversation
- refuses to fart in front of people i mean seriously
- has ever tasted a baby’s tears to see if they grant eternal life
- claims to hate something with no first-hand experience of it
- has feather extensions
- is a misogynist
- is a homophobe
- is a racist
- is a gay black lady
Reasons Why People Should Not Be Allowed To Breed
Whether or not someone should have kids depends on whether that person:
- likes Two and a Half Men on Facebook
- has feather extensions
- thinks Keira Knightley was a better Elizabeth Bennet than Jennifer Ehle
- has NOT had a sex dream about Colin Firth as Mr Darcy
- has bad teeth
- has thin lips
- has feather extensions
- popped collar
- is a zombie
- has never seen The Lion King
- is a man who deems it his responsibility to dictate the needs of women to actual women
- didn’t getInception the first time
- thinks Pablo Honey is the best Radiohead album
- is sexually attracted to trees
- has feather extensions
- has sex with children but never calls
- can’t recite a full scene from a classic Simpsons episode off by heart
- enjoys watching golf
- enjoys watching golf and masturbating
- enjoys watching golf and masturbating to the commentators’ voices
- non-ironically uses acronyms in verbal conversation
- refuses to fart in front of people i mean seriously
- has ever tasted a baby’s tears to see if they grant eternal life
- claims to hate something with no first-hand experience of it
- has feather extensions
- is a misogynist
- is a homophobe
- is a racist
- is a gay black lady
